{"id":15322,"date":"2025-05-18T15:43:22","date_gmt":"2025-05-18T15:43:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/?p=15322"},"modified":"2025-05-18T15:43:22","modified_gmt":"2025-05-18T15:43:22","slug":"scott-bessent-calls-moodys-a-lagging-indicator-after-u-s-credit-downgrade","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/?p=15322","title":{"rendered":"Scott Bessent calls Moody&#8217;s a &#8216;lagging indicator&#8217; after U.S. credit downgrade"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said in an interview on NBC News&#8217; &#8220;Meet the Press&#8221; that\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/business\/economy\/moodys-downgrades-united-states-credit-rating-increase-government-debt-rcna207385\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Moody&#8217;s\u00a0Ratings<\/a>\u00a0were a &#8220;lagging indicator&#8221; after the group downgraded the U.S.&#8217; credit rating by a notch from the highest level.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think that Moody&#8217;s is a lagging indicator,&#8221; Bessent said Sunday. &#8220;I think that&#8217;s what everyone thinks of credit agencies.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Moody&#8217;s said last week that the downgrade from Aaa to Aa1 &#8220;reflects the increase over more than a decade in government debt and interest payment ratios to levels that are significantly higher than similarly rated sovereigns.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The treasury secretary asserted that the downgrade was related to the Biden administration&#8217;s spending policies, which that<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/congress\/house-democrats-are-poised-send-sweeping-climate-health-care-bill-bide-rcna42647\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00a0administration<\/a>\u00a0had touted as investments in priorities, including combatting climate change and increasing health care coverage.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Just like Sean Duffy said with our air traffic control system, we didn&#8217;t get here in the past 100 days,&#8221; Bessent continued, referring to the transportation secretary. &#8220;It&#8217;s the Biden administration and the spending that we have seen over the past four years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The U.S. has $36.22 trillion in national debt,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/fiscaldata.treasury.gov\/americas-finance-guide\/national-debt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">according to the Treasury Department<\/a>. It began growing steadily in the 1980s and continued increasing during both President Donald Trump&#8217;s first term and former President Joe Biden&#8217;s administration.<\/p>\n<p>Bessent also told moderator Kristen Welker that he spoke on the phone with the CEO of Walmart, Doug McMillon, who the treasury secretary said told him the retail giant would &#8220;eat some of the tariffs, just as they did in &#8217;18, &#8217;19 and &#8217;20.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Walmart CFO John David Rainey\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=fe7ow8QzJIs&amp;amp;list=RDNSfe7ow8QzJIs&amp;amp;start_radio=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">previously told CNBC<\/a>\u00a0that\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/business\/business-news\/trump-walmart-raising-prices-rcna207441\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Walmart would absorb<\/a>\u00a0some higher costs related to tariffs. The CFO had also\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/business\/business-news\/trump-walmart-raising-prices-rcna207441\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">told CNBC\u00a0<\/a>separately that he was &#8220;concerned&#8221; consumers would &#8220;start seeing higher prices,&#8221; pointing to tariffs.<\/p>\n<p>Trump said in a post to Truth Social last week that Walmart should &#8220;eat the tariffs.&#8221; Walmart responded, saying the company has &#8220;always worked to keep our prices as low as possible and we won&#8217;t stop.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ll keep prices as low as we can for as long as we can given the reality of small retail margins,&#8221; the statement continued.<\/p>\n<p>When asked about his conversation, Bessent denied he applied any pressure on Walmart to &#8220;eat the tariffs,&#8221; noting that he and the CEO &#8220;have a very good relationship.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I just wanted to hear it from him, rather than second-, third-hand from the press,&#8221; Bessent said.<\/p>\n<p>McMillon had said on Walmart&#8217;s\u00a0earnings call\u00a0that tariffs have put pressure on prices. Bessent argued that companies &#8220;have to give the worst case scenario&#8221; on the calls.<\/p>\n<p>The White House has said that countries are approaching the administration to negotiate over tariffs. The administration has also announced trade agreements with the United Kingdom and China.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Bessent said on Sunday that he thinks countries that do not negotiate in good faith would see duties return to the rates announced the day the administration unveiled across-the-board tariffs.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The negotiating leverage that President Trump is talking about here is if you don&#8217;t want to negotiate, then it will spring back to the April 2 level,&#8221; Bessent said.<\/p>\n<p>Bessent was also asked about Trump saying the administration would<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/donald-trump\/trump-administration-will-accept-luxury-jet-qatar-use-air-force-one-rcna206111\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00a0accept a luxury jet from Qatar<\/a>\u00a0to be used as Air Force One, infuriating Democrats and drawing criticism from\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/donald-trump\/america-first-trump-qatar-luxury-jet-air-force-one-rcna206254\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">some Republicans<\/a>\u00a0as well.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The treasury secretary called questions about the $400 million gift an &#8220;off ramp for many in the media not to acknowledge what an incredible trip this was,&#8221; referring to investment commitments the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/donald-trump\/trump-returns-washington-investment-agreements-no-major-peace-deals-rcna206896\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">president received<\/a>\u00a0during his trip last week to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If we go back to your initial question on the Moody&#8217;s downgrade, who cares? Qatar doesn&#8217;t. Saudi doesn&#8217;t. UAE doesn&#8217;t,&#8221; he said. &#8220;They&#8217;re all pushing money in.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When asked for his response to those who argue that the jet sends a message that countries can curry favor with the U.S. by sending gifts, Bessent said that &#8220;the gifts are to the American people,&#8221; pointing to investment agreements that were unveiled during Trump&#8217;s Middle East trip.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., criticized Bessent&#8217;s comments about the credit downgrade, saying in a separate interview on &#8220;Meet the Press.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I heard the treasury secretary say that, &#8216;Who cares about the downgrading of our credit rating from Moody&#8217;s?&#8217; That is a big deal,&#8221; Murphy said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That means that we are likely headed\u00a0for a recession.\u00a0That probably means higher interest rates for anybody out there who is trying to start a business or to buy a home,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;These guys are running the economy recklessly because all they care about is the health of the Mar-a-Lago billionaire class.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2025\/05\/18\/scott-bessent-calls-moodys-a-lagging-indicator-after-us-credit-downgrade.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said in an interview on NBC News&#8217; &#8220;Meet the Press&#8221; that\u00a0Moody&#8217;s\u00a0Ratings\u00a0were a &#8220;lagging indicator&#8221; after the group downgraded the U.S.&#8217; credit rating by a notch from the highest level. &#8220;I think that Moody&#8217;s is a lagging indicator,&#8221; Bessent said Sunday. &#8220;I think that&#8217;s what everyone thinks of credit agencies.&#8221; Moody&#8217;s said<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":15323,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rank_math_lock_modified_date":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[196],"tags":[2920,279,238,2263,1212,6285,5250,2914,272],"class_list":{"0":"post-15322","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-finance-news","8":"tag-bessent","9":"tag-calls","10":"tag-credit","11":"tag-downgrade","12":"tag-indicator","13":"tag-lagging","14":"tag-moodys","15":"tag-scott","16":"tag-u-s"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15322","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=15322"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15322\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/15323"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=15322"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=15322"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=15322"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}