{"id":10939,"date":"2025-02-28T16:14:15","date_gmt":"2025-02-28T16:14:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/?p=10939"},"modified":"2025-02-28T16:14:15","modified_gmt":"2025-02-28T16:14:15","slug":"trump-musk-promote-idea-of-5000-doge-dividend-checks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/finderica.com\/?p=10939","title":{"rendered":"Trump, Musk promote idea of $5,000 &#8216;DOGE dividend&#8217; checks"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"RegularArticle-ArticleBody-5\" data-module=\"ArticleBody\" data-test=\"articleBody-2\" data-analytics=\"RegularArticle-articleBody-5-2\"><span class=\"HighlightShare-hidden\" style=\"top:0;left:0\"><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"InlineImage-imageEmbed\" id=\"ArticleBody-InlineImage-108106095\" data-test=\"InlineImage\">\n<div class=\"InlineImage-wrapper\">\n<div>\n<p>Elon Musk and President Donald Trump in the Oval Office at the White House, Feb. 11, 2025.<\/p>\n<p>Andrew Harnik | Getty Images News | Getty Images<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"group\">\n<p>As the so-called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/presidential-actions\/2025\/01\/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Department of Government Efficiency<\/a><strong> <\/strong>looks to cut federal spending, Elon Musk and President Donald Trump have floated the idea that some of any savings could come back to Americans in the form of <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/j_fishback\/status\/1891933120313663493\" target=\"_blank\">$5,000 dividend checks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But experts say it&#8217;s too soon to say whether such checks could materialize \u2014 and caution that if they did, there could be economic consequences for consumers.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h2 class=\"ArticleBody-subtitle\"><a id=\"headline0\"><\/a>How &#8216;DOGE dividend&#8217; proposal came to be<\/h2>\n<div class=\"group\">\n<p>Both Musk and Trump boosted a proposal that James Fishback, CEO of investment firm Azoria, <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/j_fishback\/status\/1891933120313663493\" target=\"_blank\">posted<\/a> Feb. 18 on social media platform X, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/doge\/trump-elon-musk-doge-dividends-low-income-americans-rcna192994\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">that suggested sending<\/a> millions of American households checks.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Americans sent their hard-earned tax dollars to Washington, D.C.,&#8221; Fishback told CNBC.com. He said he believes some of &#8220;those tax dollars were wasted.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There needs to be restitution to correct that,&#8221; Fishback said.<\/p>\n<p>The White House released in early February a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/articles\/2025\/02\/at-usaid-waste-and-abuse-runs-deep\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">list of what it called &#8220;waste and abuse&#8221;<\/a> of funds at the U.S. Agency for International Development, including $1.5 million to promote diversity, equity and inclusion in Serbia&#8217;s workplaces and $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland.<\/p>\n<p>Under Trump, DOGE, an advisory group, set an aim to cut $2 trillion in federal spending. However, Musk <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/politics-news\/elon-musk-says-doge-probably-wont-find-2-trillion-federal-budget-cuts-rcna186924\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said in a recent interview<\/a> that target may be the &#8220;best-case outcome&#8221; and there may be a &#8220;good shot&#8221; of cutting half that amount.<\/p>\n<p>In his proposal, Fishback starts from the presumption that DOGE will achieve $2 trillion in cuts to the government.\u00a0By taking 20% of that total savings \u2014 or around $400 billion \u2014 that may leave room for around 79 million tax-paying households to each receive a $5,000 tax refund, per Fishback&#8217;s plan.<\/p>\n<p><strong>More from Personal Finance:<\/strong><br \/>How Trump, DOGE job cuts may affect the economy<br \/>What experts say borrowers should do amid risks to Education Dept.<br \/>Why Trump tariffs may raise your car insurance premiums<\/p>\n<p>The idea of direct money may sound familiar to American households, millions of whom received Covid-era stimulus checks. But these payments would be different from the stimulus checks, which work to stimulate the economy at a time of weak gross domestic product growth, Fishback said<strong>. <\/strong>Unlike the stimulus checks, the DOGE dividend checks would be only for households that pay federal income taxes, Fishback said.<\/p>\n<p>The idea calls for a dividend closer to something like the Alaska Permanent Fund, in that it would represent a share of collected savings, noted Maya MacGuineas,\u00a0president of the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.<\/p>\n<p>The rebate would be sent only to households that are &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/j_fishback\/status\/1891933120313663493\" target=\"_blank\">net payers of federal income tax<\/a>,&#8221; per the plan \u2014 people who pay more in taxes than they get back. Under those terms, lower-income Americans would not qualify for the return. According to the Pew Research Center, most Americans who have an adjusted gross income of under $40,000 effectively pay no federal income tax.<\/p>\n<p>Fishback, meanwhile, told CNBC.com there&#8217;s no minimum income requirement, but Americans would have to file a federal tax return to receive the money. The prospect of the payments may provide an incentive for nonworking individuals to reenter the labor force, according to the plan.<\/p>\n<p>To be sure, the terms of the plan could change if lawmakers decide to consider it.<\/p>\n<p>Trump has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/remarks\/2025\/02\/press-gaggle-by-president-trump-at-future-investment-initiative-institute-priority-summit\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">welcomed the idea<\/a>. Musk, who Trump brought on board to implement DOGE, &#8220;very much agrees the incentives are in place&#8221; to get everyday Americans to report waste, fraud and abuse, Fishback said of a recent conversation he had with the billionaire.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h2 class=\"ArticleBody-subtitle\"><a id=\"headline1\"><\/a>Congress would have to approve payments<\/h2>\n<div class=\"group\">\n<p>Yet to send the DOGE checks out, the Trump administration will need Congress&#8217; approval. Fishback has been meeting with House and Senate members to promote the idea.<\/p>\n<p>Last week, House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., <a href=\"https:\/\/www.c-span.org\/program\/public-affairs-event\/house-speaker-johnson-fireside-chat-at-cpac\/656122\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said<\/a> that while it would be &#8220;great&#8221; politically, other priorities should come first. Experts say DOGE needs to figure out how much money has been saved before promising people checks in the mail.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have a $36 trillion federal debt. We have a giant deficit,&#8221; Johnson said. &#8220;I think we need to pay down the credit card.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller <a href=\"https:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/remarks\/2025\/02\/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-karoline-leavitt-deputy-chief-of-staff-stephen-miller-national-economic-council-director-kevin-hassett-and-national-security-advisor-mike-waltz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recently said<\/a> the DOGE checks will be &#8220;worked on through the reconciliation process with Congress that&#8217;s going underway right now.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Yet some experts have expressed doubts about the proposal.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s no appropriation for this,&#8221; said Elaine Kamarck, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who ran the Clinton administration&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.brookings.edu\/articles\/lessons-for-the-future-of-government-reform\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">National Performance Review<\/a>, which implemented cuts in an effort to modernize and improve the federal government&#8217;s performance.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div role=\"region\" aria-labelledby=\"Placeholder-ArticleBody-Video-108104893\">\n<div role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" id=\"Placeholder-ArticleBody-Video-108104893\" class=\"PlaceHolder-wrapper\" data-vilynx-id=\"7000367155\" data-test=\"VideoPlaceHolder\">\n<div class=\"InlineVideo-videoEmbed\" id=\"InlineVideo-0\" data-test=\"InlineVideo\">\n<div class=\"InlineVideo-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"InlineVideo-inlineThumbnailContainer\"><span class=\"InlineVideo-videoButton\"><\/span><span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"group\">\n<p>&#8220;You cannot spend money without Congress telling you that you can spend money,&#8221; Kamarck said. &#8220;That is illegal.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It also remains to be seen whether the DOGE initiative can generate enough savings to justify $5,000 payments, Kamarck said. Even with the savings DOGE plans hope to generate, initiatives like curbing immigration will require new or increased spending in other areas.<\/p>\n<p>Without yet having generated meaningful savings, it&#8217;s premature to talk about dividend checks, MacGuineas said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The bottom line is when you&#8217;re running $2 trillion deficits every year, you can&#8217;t give away more money in stimulus checks,&#8221; MacGuineas said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Basically, you&#8217;re borrowing more to give back to people, but the borrowing still falls on them,&#8221; MacGuineas said.<\/p>\n<p>But if DOGE were able to generate $1 trillion in savings per year, &#8220;absolutely additional savings being returned to taxpayers would make total sense and be desirable,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h2 class=\"ArticleBody-subtitle\"><a id=\"headline2\"><\/a>&#8216;Wrong time&#8217; to have consumer stimulus?<\/h2>\n<div class=\"group\">\n<p>Inflation spiked in the aftermath of the Covid pandemic and is still higher than the Federal Reserve&#8217;s 2% target. Some experts worry that additional direct payments to Americans would contribute to more inflation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This is certainly the wrong time to have any sort of consumer stimulus,&#8221; said Judge Glock, director of research and senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. &#8220;Inflation remains elevated; any sort of stimulus would exacerbate that inflation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>However, the amount of money saved under DOGE may not provide payments big enough to fuel inflation, Kamarck said.<\/p>\n<p>The prospect of direct payments comes as Congress may look at extending provisions in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act later this year.<\/p>\n<p>There are already a number of policies being added to that package that are raising deficit concerns, said Alex Muresianu, senior policy analyst at the Tax Foundation.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This would be another very large thing to try and squeeze in as well,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"group\">\n<p>Meanwhile, Fishback maintains the DOGE dividend checks would simply refund Americans money they already contributed through income taxes.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, the way Americans would likely use an unexpected $5,000 \u2014 by paying off debt, saving or investing toward long-term goals like retirement \u2014 would not be inflationary, Fishback said, citing a 2019 CNBC survey.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Every American has the mechanism with DOGE and the incentive with the DOGE dividend to report this waste, fraud and abuse,&#8221; Fishback said. &#8220;We&#8217;ll save even more of our hard-earned tax dollars when we give every American skin in the game.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"group\">\n<div class=\"RelatedContent-relatedContent\" id=\"RegularArticle-RelatedContent-1\">\n<div class=\"RelatedContent-container\">\n<div class=\"RelatedContent-nonCollapsibleContent\">\n<h2 class=\"RelatedContent-header\">Don\u2019t miss these insights from CNBC PRO<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2025\/02\/27\/trump-musk-promote-idea-of-5000-doge-dividend-checks.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Elon Musk and President Donald Trump in the Oval Office at the White House, Feb. 11, 2025. 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